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Re: Debian Jessie

Postby Bookworm » Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:44 pm

Frankly, I don't have a problem with a reinstall. Especially if the whitelisting function is put into the GUI. It's too difficult to try to force _customers_ of MY customers to fix their servers.

Yes, I understand all the reasons why whitelisting is "bad", but YOU don't have to live with these people, and they WILL NOT CHANGE. As the functionality is in the system, just adding the GUI interface for it isn't exactly giving in.
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Re: Debian Jessie

Postby toothycardus » Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:44 pm

Bookworm wrote:Especially if the whitelisting function is put into the GUI.


White listing is already in the GUI, configuration -> domains -> filtering -> enable whitelist and add the people.
or for things like reverse dns issues, configuration -> smtp -> Don't check these hosts


*Edit*
Also don't mind re-installing as most upgrades break things anyway, can't beat a fresh start!
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Re: Debian Jessie

Postby Bookworm » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:21 am

toothycardus wrote:
Bookworm wrote:Especially if the whitelisting function is put into the GUI.


White listing is already in the GUI, configuration -> domains -> filtering -> enable whitelist and add the people.
or for things like reverse dns issues, configuration -> smtp -> Don't check these hosts


I'm referring to enabling the whitelist that's part of the blacklist in 'Configuration', smtp, connection control.

/var/mailcleaner/spool/tmp/exim/blacklists/whitelist is the file itself. This is part of the initial Exim. This is NOT a file that's created by, or controlled by, the GUI. In fact, if you reboot the system, it's wiped out. That directory structure is rebuilt from SQL - and the whitelist isn't stored anywhere in the SQL system.

So, I have to maintain the file by hand, and when the system reboots, I have to manually load it in and reset the appropriate filtering/smtp engines.

So, I do appreciate that you think you're helping - but those aren't actually the Exim whitelist.
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Re: Debian Jessie

Postby toothycardus » Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:00 am

What do you achieve functionality wise by having Exim whitelists over over the MailCleaner ones? as our setup has never required us to do anything more than the built in whitelist or smtp don't check these hosts.
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Re: Debian Jessie

Postby fanfarlo » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:36 am

Hi there

Any news on this topic? We would highly appreciate to have the MailCleaner on Debian Jessie.

Squeeze support ended on 29th February 2016. :(

thanks for your feedback
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Re: Debian Jessie

Postby deltacomc » Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:21 pm

Wow, did an "aptitude update" today and got the following information:

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root@mailcleaner:/usr/mailcleaner# aptitude update
Hit http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates Release.gpg
Ign http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/contrib Translation-en
Ign http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/contrib Translation-en_US
Ign http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/main Translation-en
Ign http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/non-free Translation-en
Ign http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/non-free Translation-en_US
Hit http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates Release
Ign http://pool.mailcleaner.org squeeze Release.gpg
Ign http://pool.mailcleaner.org/ squeeze/mailcleaner Translation-en
Ign http://pool.mailcleaner.org/ squeeze/mailcleaner Translation-en_US
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze Release.gpg
Ign http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/contrib Translation-en
Ign http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/contrib Translation-en_US
Ign http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main Translation-en
Ign http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/non-free Translation-en
Ign http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/non-free Translation-en_US
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze-updates Release.gpg
Ign http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates/contrib Translation-en
Ign http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates/contrib Translation-en_US
Ign http://pool.mailcleaner.org squeeze Release
Ign http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates/main Translation-en
Ign http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates/non-free Translation-en
Ign http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates/non-free Translation-en_US
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze Release
Ign http://pool.mailcleaner.org squeeze/mailcleaner amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze-updates Release
Ign http://pool.mailcleaner.org squeeze/mailcleaner amd64 Packages
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze/contrib amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze/non-free amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates/main amd64 Packages
Ign http://pool.mailcleaner.org squeeze/mailcleaner amd64 Packages
Hit http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates/contrib amd64 Packages
Hit http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates/non-free amd64 Packages
Hit http://pool.mailcleaner.org squeeze/mailcleaner amd64 Packages
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze-updates/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze-updates/contrib amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze-updates/non-free amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze/main amd64 Packages
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze/contrib amd64 Packages
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze/non-free amd64 Packages
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze-updates/main amd64 Packages
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze-updates/contrib amd64 Packages
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze-updates/non-free amd64 Packages
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze/main amd64 Packages
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze/contrib amd64 Packages
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze/non-free amd64 Packages
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze-updates/main amd64 Packages
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze-updates/contrib amd64 Packages
Ign http://ftp.debian.org squeeze-updates/non-free amd64 Packages
Ign http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-lts/contrib Translation-en_US
Ign http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-lts/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-lts/non-free Translation-en_US
Ign http://http.debian.net squeeze-lts Release.gpg
Ign http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-lts/contrib Translation-en
Ign http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-lts/main Translation-en
Ign http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-lts/non-free Translation-en
Err http://ftp.debian.org squeeze/main amd64 Packages
  404  Not Found
Err http://ftp.debian.org squeeze/contrib amd64 Packages
  404  Not Found
Err http://ftp.debian.org squeeze/non-free amd64 Packages
  404  Not Found
Err http://ftp.debian.org squeeze-updates/main amd64 Packages
  404  Not Found
Err http://ftp.debian.org squeeze-updates/contrib amd64 Packages
  404  Not Found
Err http://ftp.debian.org squeeze-updates/non-free amd64 Packages
  404  Not Found
Ign http://http.debian.net squeeze-lts Release
Ign http://http.debian.net squeeze-lts/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://http.debian.net squeeze-lts/contrib amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://http.debian.net squeeze-lts/non-free amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://http.debian.net squeeze-lts/main amd64 Packages
Ign http://http.debian.net squeeze-lts/contrib amd64 Packages
Ign http://http.debian.net squeeze-lts/main amd64 Packages
Ign http://http.debian.net squeeze-lts/non-free amd64 Packages
Ign http://http.debian.net squeeze-lts/contrib amd64 Packages
Ign http://http.debian.net squeeze-lts/non-free amd64 Packages
Err http://http.debian.net squeeze-lts/main amd64 Packages
  404  Not Found [IP: 5.153.231.35 80]
Err http://http.debian.net squeeze-lts/contrib amd64 Packages
  404  Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.66 80]
Err http://http.debian.net squeeze-lts/non-free amd64 Packages
  404  Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.66 80]

root@mailcleaner:/usr/mailcleaner#


No more updates?
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Re: Debian Jessie

Postby FlorianB » Tue May 03, 2016 2:18 pm

Hello,
I'll try to keep you informed about this.
There was a CVE about Exim and root access but exploitation would need a local access to the MailCleaner so we chose to not correct this. The work to migrate on Jessie is far more important now i think, it will always be time after that to recompile Exim with a newer version.
We have no real plan to correct security issue on actual version but if a CVE appears to be high or more and than a remote exploitation is possible, i would test it and patch it myself if feasable.

PS: About repository not working anymore, of course we got the same problem, so if you need you could disable squeeze lts repository in /etc/apt/source.list.d/anythinglts, and then change in /etc/apt/source.list all "ftp" mention for "archive". It will not give you last version of anything (of course, MailCleaner would simply not work at all, nothing) but will allow you to install some tools.

Best regards,
Florian Billebault
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Re: Debian Jessie

Postby dennisreij » Mon May 16, 2016 10:00 am

Hi Florian,

Thanks for all the time and effort for helping us out with this.
I will wait for the new version!

Regards,
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Re: Debian Jessie

Postby gigawebs » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:23 pm

Any news on this one? Can't wait to get rid of Squeeze!

Thx!
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Re: Debian Jessie

Postby Martijn » Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:00 am

I recently mailed to ask the same question:

Hi Martijn

We hope to have the release of the new edition at the end of the year together with the new commercial edition...

Best regards
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Re: Debian Jessie

Postby gigawebs » Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:02 pm

Martijn, thanks for sharing this information. We have to be patient then. And hope that the current system keeps running...
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Re: Debian Jessie

Postby FlorianB » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:32 pm

Hello, it will keeps running ;-), else we 'll have a problem too so we'll have to find a solution.

In this thread, i posted: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2340&p=10051#p10051
Hello guys,

Two things to differentiate:
1) What i call often "new version" : This is MailCleaner on Debian Jessie, we re working on it since a long time ago (too much, but we have a lot of side work too). I expect this to be finish before the end of the year.
2) What bourgeois call the new version : Could be the same as the first, or the next, I can't really say for now but we want to mix the commercial and the community as he explained. We didn't really begin any works to combine both edition in one but it shouldn't be too hard and will avoid to maintain and duplicate code.

Technically, yes this is the same code for a big part. But all the sourceforge part, the way to update the community, the way to make the community edition what she is (commercial without our bases, rbls etc...) where absolutely not experimented by myself and would be too much time consuming too.

MailCleaner on Debian Jessie: Between next week and Christmas
MailCleaner Commercial and Community combined: probably some weeks after


So, nothing really changed on our side about our expectations.
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Re: Debian Jessie

Postby coltrane » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:53 pm

Hello

Any predictions for the launch?
December already has passed and nothing has been reported so far ..
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Re: Debian Jessie

Postby Linus » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:19 am

I come here every day to check the status of the new version ;) I don't think there are any better alternatives to Mailcleaner but debian 6 is EOL. Mailcleaner has great tracing, sub admins, cluster support, etc.
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Re: Debian Jessie

Postby FlorianB » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:47 pm

Sorry,
Long time no see as i just had to took some times with my all new twins baby !!!

Talking about MailCleaner:
1) MailCleaner fully works on Jessie now, all packages were recompilated for Jessie for some performance improvment (and sometimes version update, other packages version will come soon after).
2) We are finishing some script to fuse both MailCleaner Community and Commercial Edition (registration/Unregistration, registration of Community user if wanted to get some newsletters and maybe something more (sometimes some updated baysian pack, not last but updated !))
3) We migrated the code to git to have better code management and make it public, we have to check rights etc... to separated CE branch of EE. We have to change some lines in script related to cvs to download things and update the product.
4) We have to fill /etc/issue with links to documentation etc... as MailCleaner will now come without installer but as a ready to use VM.
5) KVM VM will be the first to be available probably as we works with it, but they should be convertible, and we'll soon provide some for Hyper-V or VmWare
6) Lots of testing

I suppose we could publish a "pre-version" before the testing phase to allow all to test it.

As you can see, there is no heavy work now to finish this but it became longer and more complicated with babies to manage on my side (and some complications about that to be honest). Sorry for that.

Florian Billebault
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